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nigo
16/01/2009, 14:55
...por drophacking no CoH


http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=442673


ele está banido apenas do site dos caras.

Pvt.AleC
16/01/2009, 15:08
Que vergonha mesmo... O cara top player ser banido por isso, deveria ser banido temporariamente até do jogo =P
Alguém sabe qual replay mais suspeito, que os caras dizem no post?

Abraços.

nigo
16/01/2009, 15:21
pelo oq eu lembro, é um contra um jogador não muito bom, onde ele estava perdendo e deu drophack para ganhar.


e pelo o que eu entendi depois disso ele fez uma outra conta com o nome de "300" e fazia drophack com ela.

ARM4GEDON
16/01/2009, 16:07
É isso ai.

eu vi o Replay do drophack tb. Achei que não ia dar em nada...

itaperuna_coh
16/01/2009, 17:44
looooool
que sinistro
top 1 em 3 exericitos
qnd o cara chega esse ponto o jogo já não é mais jogo
é foco da sua vida
ae fudeu

||JiggySaw||
16/01/2009, 17:58
E o pior de tudo, é q a relic ja sabe disso a mto tempo, e até hj naum fez nada... vamo ver se agora eles tomam vergonha na cara e resetam a conta do cara...

SuperSoca
16/01/2009, 19:27
die cheater.

nigo
16/01/2009, 19:48
pelo oq eu entendi, o gr.org já enviou tudo a Relic.

Cliff
16/01/2009, 20:58
pelo oq eu lembro, é um contra um jogador não muito bom, onde ele estava perdendo e deu drophack para ganhar.


e pelo o que eu entendi depois disso ele fez uma outra conta com o nome de "300" e fazia drophack com ela.

esse replay foi contra um ruim jogador de brit em um de seu ''bom'' dia, num mapa ''Anti PE'' ( semois ) que na qual o IP4K jogava com esse mesmo army(PE), o brit player nao sei como conseguia ter o controle do jogo ainda, era desajeitado nos lugares onde jogava os gliders de commandos, pessimo micro, perdia squads com facilidade, etc...mesmo assim conseguiu levar o jogo, e o IP4k top player diante te tal situacao nao conseguindo fazer nada pra reverter o jogo contra um mal jogador, optou pelo mau caminho e fez o drophack, o replay foi postado umas 2 vezes la, gerou bastante repercusao, que na qual foi claro o uso de drophack...



a conta 300 é a conta antiga dele, o caso é que ele já como IP4k, ''surpreendeu'' admitindo que praticava os drophax, e sobre um tal fato de que ele nunca havia falado pra ninguem que éra o ''300'', e entao, custaram a crer que ele havia mudado, ficou mais maduro, e resolveram dar uma chance, e confiaram nele, porém como puderam ver, ele continou praticando tais atos, e dessa vez, nao teve volta, punindo o com um ban...

pois é, coh serious business...lolz

e outra, grande coisa tomar ban na gr, ele nem postava muito la, apesar de ter os melhores avatares lolz...ele tinha que tomar ban é no relic online...no gr se resolve usando um proxy...

nigo
16/01/2009, 21:19
...





Cliff,

vc é o tal "Chacineiro" que posta no gr.org?


seja bem vindo ao BFC e a sessão de CoH. :B



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sobre o ban dele no gr.org, é para desmoralizar ele. Quem jogar com ele daqui p/ frente vai ficar chamando ele de drophacker e etc. Além do que, a Relic ainda pode fazer algo.

BobCuspe
17/01/2009, 08:33
O cara é uma das 'estrelas' do GR. Tem entrevista com ele... tem pacote de replays... o cara era uma referência no jogo. Ainda mais por ter chegado ao Level 20 em 3 exércitos ao mesmo tempo - como o itaperuna falou.

Numa entrevista do GR, perguntam o que ele achava das críticas que recebia de outros top players por ter chegado ao nível 20 só depois de outros top já tinham deixado o jogo de lado. Logicamente a pergunta foi feita com base no questionamento que era feito à sua 'qualidade como jogador'.

Claro que o cara era bom. Era não, ainda é. Mas deve ser complicado pra ele chegar a esse nível e ter que arriscar perder qualquer partida pra um outro não tão bom assim. Já imaginou o Itaperuna entrando pro Automatch, ter que encarar um BobCuspe pela frente e ainda perder pra mim (sonho meu... sonho meu...) hauhauha. É por isso que nos esportes individuais, existe o ranking pra exitar que um calouro (o famoso nooooooooooooooooooob) chegue de repente e estrague a festa.

Cliff
17/01/2009, 08:47
Cliff,

vc é o tal "Chacineiro" que posta no gr.org?


seja bem vindo ao BFC e a sessão de CoH. :B



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sobre o ban dele no gr.org, é para desmoralizar ele. Quem jogar com ele daqui p/ frente vai ficar chamando ele de drophacker e etc. Além do que, a Relic ainda pode fazer algo.

não, não sou tal user ''chacineiro'', eu nem tenho conta la no GR...porém obrigado pelo bem vindo de qualquer maneira :angel:

parece que a relic ja tomou as providencias, a conta do IP4K foi deletada, e já nao consta mais la nos ranks...e o topico na GR foi locked...

porem, com o novo patch e ToV se aproximando, logo logo ele volta a jogar...lolz

||JiggySaw||
18/01/2009, 19:50
http://www.gamereplays.org/companyofheroes/replays.php?game=25&tab=popular&show=details&id=63700

tá ai a prova do crime...uHAuahuauuaUuaHaUuaUhaUHuaHuAH

Pvt.AleC
18/01/2009, 20:53
Não to dando razão pro cara ter usado do drophack, mas british é uma palhaçada huaihaa qualquer um passa raiva...
Contei umas 4 squads só de Glider Crush e fora outras palhaçadas que não justificam drophack, mas irritam huaiuhaiuha

Abraços.

BobCuspe
19/01/2009, 01:36
Só pra complementar com mais algumas informações sobre o cara. Ele deu uma entrevista pro GR. Aqui está:

Q&A with IplayForKeeps
Hey IplayForKeeps I just finished analyzing 21 of your British games and I must say that I think you are the most aggressive Brit player out there. Let’s talk about your play style and the theory behind it; so here goes:

1) What maps (if any) do you deselect when you play Brits and why? Please rank the 1v1 maps from best to least for Brits.
IplayForKeeps Answer: Personally, I deselect Beaux Lowlands and St Mere Dumont. Beaux Lowlands is too big for Brits and doesn’t suit my aggressive play style, and St Mere Dumont has awful cover and is hard versus good PE players. In my opinion the best Brit maps are: Langres > Angoville > Semois > Sturzdorf > St Mere Dumont > Beaux Lowlands

2) A lot of Brit player say they find Semois challenging, often deselecting the map. However, you seem to have great success on this map, what is your approach to Semois that makes you so successful on it? What is the biggest thing to look out for (rushes, etc.)?
IplayForKeeps Answer: I tend to go for the fast Stuart and using the early Recon squad to my advantage, de-capping fuel and holding the left hand side, using the LT and 2nd Tommie squad to push forward and the Bren is very useful due to blind spots such as the Church and NE Building of the graveyard. The constant fuel supply this is what makes it such a nice map for Brits, your HQ is well covered and you have the constant +18 fuel and +18 muni, even if you’re having a bad game. Dealing with rushes such as MG spam can be countered using the Bren, to transport a Tommie squad to a building and take fire while you flank, or with the Mortar pit. Due to the strangle points I find it useful to setup a fast MG nest to pin your opponent very early on (best to use vs Wehrmacht) and gaining advantage by
cutting off his/her fuel and getting that all important fast Stuart/Cromwell.

3) Royal Commandos are a favorite doctrine selection for many Brit players; please elaborate on why you like this doctrine. Also, you used RE a few times as well; can you please elaborate on what circumstances leads you to choosing RE? What about Royal Artillery; your thoughts on its place in 1v1s?
IplayForKeeps Answer: Royal Commandos are chosen so often due to the fact that they’re so strong, and can turn a game round by the click of your fingers. I usually go Commandos for 2 reasons: To annoy my opponent and get the win faster, or to pull one out the bag and save myself in very difficult situations. As for RE; I go for them on the occasions of, T3 Wehr, or a Vehicle strat used by my opponents, Churchill’s combined with over-repair are very deadly, rendering tread breaker useless and reeking havoc with little damage intake. As for Royal Arty, I would probably use this doctrine on large, campy maps. Artillery slows down my progress as an aggressive Brit player, although very effective; it’s rarely my cup of tea unless I want to enrage an annoying; flaming opponent.

4) In a lot of posts on the Brit strategy forums, Brit players are having a hard time with base rushes, etc. A lot of folks recommend that a way to help avoid a pin is to produce more units before moving your HQ. However, in all of your games, you build a LT then move your HQ; can you please explain your rationale for doing this?
IplayForKeeps Answer: The reason I move so fast is due to the early advantage Brits have of capsizing on their resources, early. It’s the key to fast Stuarts etc. Your opponent will focus on pinning you rather than teching and that’s what leads to their downfall, they’re rarely prepared for the Stuart and Commandos, this is what leads to successful victories.

5) Speaking of base rushes, do you have an opinion on how to avoid a Wehrmacht base pin strategy (as outlined by Kibbles)? If a player doesn’t have level 20 micro skills, is there anything they can do to increase their chances of surviving this?
IplayForKeeps Answer: If you are certain your opponent will do this strat, don’t move your HQ unless you’re covered by your MG’s, if it is sprung upon you, keep pressing retreat whilst at your HQ to render suppression useless and kill them pesky MG’s, use the recon effectively either flanking or capping fuel. Tommies take damage- you’ll win the battle versus the MG as long as you keep pressing retreat and targeting the MG, remember bikes get auto targeted by your units. P.S Lieutenants win a 1v1 versus a bike close range, stop being sissies and charge Klaus!

6) Your basic strategy appears to be built on “fast teching” and the use of the Bren Carrier, Stuart followed by Cromwells. Can you please describe your overall Brit strategy and elaborate on the role of each of these units plays in that strategy? Do you see your strat being affected once Beta goes into retail?
IplayForKeeps Answer: Bren Carrier: The idea is to use this unit to push your enemy back and kill and MG’s, or sit on top of his units waging the battle in your favor. Most players expect it yet still struggle to deal with it, so use it to your advantage and remember to micro! Stuart: Use this unit to counter Blobs and light vehicles; with sufficient micro you can take on Marders and Stugs, so be tactical in your decision making, don’t wage war with a Stuart because it will usually die in 2 to 3 hits, use it at the back or to target/chase vehicles. Cromwell: A shock unit and anti infantry blob. Support unit. No I don’t think my strat will be affected at all by the patch, possibly the Bren but other than that it’s solid. I’ll have to prove myself now; won’t I?

7) Let’s talk Sappers. In 15/21 games you choose Expert Engineers and in 3/21 you chose PIAT’s. Can you talk about the role of the Sappers in your strategy?
IplayForKeeps Answer: My Sapper’s role is to repair, and make sure I have the early advantage in a tank battle with Over-repair. Upgrades are totally situational; if I have no AT I’ll have to go PIAT’s with Button to scare off Amour until I have emplacements or tanks of my own. Expert Engineers are so handy due to the Overrepair ability and rendering tread breaker useless, and increasing the defense of your Sim City, if you have one.

8) Tommy Upgrades. Please explain your rationale behind choosing an upgrade? I noticed that your decision is not entirely based on the faction you are playing against, therefore, please describe the scenario for which you chose to upgrade.
IplayForKeeps Answer: 1 Rifle Grenade squad, 1 Bren squad. Anti Infantry and Button, that’s all I need. Versus an Infantry Heavy strat I use more Riflegrenades and versus vehicles based strat (KT etc.), more Brens.

9) Emplacements. I noticed that out of all the Brit players I analyzed, you use the least emplacements. Why is that? Is it the pure speed at which you tech more important? I find that most (average) Brit players struggle with getting some form of AT in time for some kind of vehicle rush. Any advice for the average Brit player when it comes to the use of emplacements?
IplayForKeeps Answer: The simple reason is, I don’t need them- I’m either saving for Commandos or Tanks, emplacements slow you down, encourage you to hold one spot when you could be running rampant, only use them if you cutting of a chokehold, that is if your using my aggressive strat. As for the ‘average joes’ out there, use your MP and Fuel wisely, try and get in to the mindset of your opponent- what is he teching to? What do you need to counter it? Versus an infantry heavy strat, if he has had better fuel control go for an AT gun and MG, versus light vehicles and blobs, go for Bofors and a Howitzer, you see where I’m going with this? I personally try to be humble by not using every OP thing in one game, then again, it’s up to you.

10) Let’s talk Tanks!! The British tanks seem to be very versatile, that is, power and speed. It almost appears that the primary goal for a Brit player is to ensure that they reach T3 as fast as they can. Would you agree with that statement? Your thoughts on the British Tanks?
IplayForKeeps Answer: Not entirely, it depends on the player- some feel comfortable with the slow game and emplacements, they prefer the slower campier sides of things and slow teching. At high level play I’d probably consider it imperative, to get that advantage. Brit tanks are probably the most effective, 2 Cromwell’s will own any infantry blob, and Fireflies will obliterate any tank on the field. (Warning! Micro needed!)

11) When playing against Wehr, what are your biggest concerns? That is, what do you have a hard time dealing with, your biggest challenge?
IplayForKeeps Answer: Early game rushes and tanks when I have little or no AT. Alsolosing my LT early- it’s a bugger to move around and annoying to have to spend that 15 fuel, again.

12) When playing against PE, what are your biggest concerns? That is, what do you have a hard time dealing with, your biggest challenge??
IplayForKeeps Answer: Infantry Halftrack rush, and Seph.. sometimes!

13) Any other final thoughts/tips regarding your Brit strategy and/or approach that you would like to share with the folks on GR?
IplayForKeeps Answer: LT’s own Bikes. A Brit who knows what he is doing =
unbeatable. Don’t hate me, I gave up on Brits. Don’t hate the player, hate the game! Thanks for the interview I enjoyed answering your questions. I hope the folks on GR enjoyed it too.

Thanks for reading!
IplayForKeeps and Warhawks


Player Analysis: IplayForKeeps

Games played:
• 21 total games (against/breakdown)
• 10 Wehrmacht (2 Blitz, 5 Terror, 1 Defensive, 2 NA)
• 11 Panzer Elite (9 Tank Destroyer, 1 Luftwaffe, 1 Scorched Earth)

Doctrine selection:
• 14/21 Commandos
- In 13/14, IPFK choose Commandos at 3CP
- Then he most likely goes RHS to Decoy Arty
• 4/21 Royal Engineers
• 3/21 No selection

Tier 1 Analysis:
• HQ production (before T2):
- In 21/21 games a LT squad was the first unit out of HQ
- In 21/21 games a Tommy was the second unit out of the HQ
- In 16/21 games a Bren Carrier was the third unit out of the HQ
- In 5/21 games a Tommy squad was the third unit out of the HQ

# units produced before issuing Become Mobile (BM):
In 21/21 games 2 units are out before BM (Initial
Tommy + LT, then Become mobile)

# of units produced before calling in FST:
• In 18/21 games 3 units produced before FST (T2)
• In 3/21 games 4 units produced before FST (T2)
• In 17/21 games a Bren Carrier was produced

Tier 2 Analysis:
• Build Order:
- 1st unit out of FST was: In 19/21 games Captain
- In 19/21 games a Stuart was produced
• Unit Upgrades:
- In 15/21 games Expert Engineers 1st Sapper upgrade (3 PIAT, 3 n/a)
• 1st Tommy upgrade:
- In 6/27 Rifle Grenades upgrade (3 vs PE, 3 vs WM)
- In 9/21 Bren upgrade (5 vs PE, 4 vs WM)
- In 2/21 Recon upgrade
- In 4/21 n/a
• Emplacements:
- Mortar Pit: 2/21 games (vs. WM)
- Bofors: 3/21 games
- 17 pounder AT: 5/21 games (all vs. PE)
- 25 pounder Howie: 1/21 (vs. PE)
- Causality Clearing Station (CSS): 11/21 games
- Vickers: 1/21 games

Other:
• Speed Governs 3/21 games
• Secured Resources 1/21 games
• In 9/21 games mines/demos where placed