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    Eu tenho um I7 4770k e ta loco de bom, o problema é q os testes atuais mostram q o I7 é ainda superior em jogos, o q mostra o contrario do q a AMD tava falando. Confiar em promessa da AMD n da mais, essa ja é a segunda vez q eles falam q vão revoluciona a merda toda e ta na mesma.

    Não so fanboy e espero q a AMD entregue pelo menos um pouco do q tão prevendo, pq a Intel ta acomodada faz tempo.
    Analisar somente sobre essa ótica só em casos de jogos competitivos como CS:GO com i7 7700k que precisa de muitas FPS, já em outras situações a coisa é bem diferente

    E grande parte não é culpa da AMD sobre o IPC dos processadores já que depende de terceiros, a Intel está só refinando o processo e sem concorrência a anos e chega a AMD com uma arquitetura nova e do zero pau a pau com diferenças muito pequenas

    Ela está entregando com excelente custo x benefício vulgo preços com 4/4. 4/8, 6/12 e 8/12 e tudo isso no RYZEN 3, 5 e 7, é uma grande mudança e foi o motivo da intel colocar +2 core e +4 threads na linha i7 e vai precisar apanhar mais para colocar 8/16 na linha i7

    Quando a Intel colocaria isso se continuasse como estava ? Nunca

    Quando Intel baixaria os preços dos processadores se não fosse o sucesso dos Ryzen em determinadas aplicações e com mais core e threads nas suas atuais linhas ?

    Segundo semestre de 2018 e primeiro semestre de 2019, vai chegar ZEN 2 com 7 nm

    Eu sempre tive Intel mas o PC que montei recentemente para um conhecido foi RYZEN 7 1700, montei o PC como se estivesse montando para mim mas antes de tudo eu sou pragmático e analiso toda a situação e não apenas uma ótica

    Óbvio que tudo depende de qual necessidade precisa ser atendida, INTEL com i7 7700k será melhor naquela necessidade e na outra R7 1700

    Vai entregar FPS mas não vai ter suporte a plataforma com novas CPU, 6 por meia dúzia

    Coffe Lake está chegando e vai equilibrar essa questão com os RYZEN

    E a única exceção unânime de a Intel ser melhor em jogos é i7 7700k

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    AMD: Ryzen Development Was a ‘Worst-Case Scenario’

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    https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-sa....246354.0.html

    https://www.techspot.com/news/70887-...engineers.html



    AMD was present at this year’s edition of PAX West, and the company’s desktop CPU marketing manager Don Woligroski offered some insight on the upcoming Zen 2 microarchitecture. In a video interview with Joker Productions, Woligroski first defends the arguably low frequencies for the Ryzen CPU clocks, stating that “Ryzen, was the worst case scenario. It was a brand new architecture on a brand new node. So the worst case scenario we could’ve possibly had, and it’s pretty good. You can get (Threadripper CPUs) to over 4 GHz.”

    The Zen 2 microarchitecure that will be featured in future Ryzen 2 CPUs will especially improve the IPC (instructions per cycle) rates and the base frequencies. “We’ve got clock speed headroom to take advantage of and we’ve got tweaks to make sure performance for each clock is better,” said Woligrowski.

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    Ai q ta, o potencial é irrelevante pra mim, eu quero ver resultados. Repito, eu torço pra q a AMD entregue mesmo, mas tenho minhas duvidas.

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    Ai q ta, o potencial é irrelevante pra mim, eu quero ver resultados. Repito, eu torço pra q a AMD entregue mesmo, mas tenho minhas duvidas.
    Já tem vídeos com esses "resultados" nesse tópico, diferença mínima para Intel que está a anos só refinando o processo com exceção do i7 7700k. Intel está a anos sozinha no mercado só refinando, se a Intel pelo menos não tivesse um pouco de vantagem seria vergonhoso né

    Milagrosamente a Intel adiantou o lançamento do Coffe Lake e ainda com mais Core e Threads em todas as linhas i3, i5 e i7.

    Misteriosamente os preços que nunca caíram, começaram a cair, é porque algum resultado RYZEN está entregando, algo não está batendo nessa equação

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    Side-by-side Breakdown of the Results


    Fonte: https://www.techspot.com/review/1490...080/page8.html


    Not that long ago I compared the overclocked R5 1600 and i7-7700K in 30 games using the GTX 1080 Ti and at 1080p the Ryzen CPU was on average 9% slower. Here we see with the slower GTX 1080 the Ryzen CPU was just 5% slower, so that's pretty well in line with previous findings.
    What's interesting to note about this side-by-side game comparison is that in the more modern and well put together titles, Ryzen is extremely competitive. In fact, the only real head scratchers here are Hitman, Dawn of War III and Total War Warhammer.

    In many other games such as Dirt 4, Doom, Sniper Elite 4, Battlefield 1, Rise of the Tomb Raider, The Division, Prey, Overwatch and Resident Evil 7 we found Ryzen to be extremely competitive. These results are of course based on the GTX 1080 handling the rendering work, so let's see how things look at 1080p with Vega 64.

    Dropping in Vega 64 we see that overall Ryzen is actually slightly slower as it now trailed the 7700K by a 7% margin overall. Although the Ryzen 5 1600 processor does much better in Civilization VI, it now struggles in quite a few more titles than what was seen previously with the GeForce graphics card and we'll take a closer look at that in a moment.

    For now let's see how things change at 1440p.

    At 1440p we are more GPU limited but even so we saw some strange things when comparing the Core i7 and Ryzen CPUs. A number of times Ryzen was at best able to match the 7700K at 1080p though at 1440p delivered noticeably better results. Only in Hitman Ryzen is slower by a 10% margin or greater and as a result is now just 2% slower overall.


    Moving to the Vega 64 results at 1440p, we again find that overall Ryzen was a mere 1% slower than the Core i7 processor. The margins on a per-game basis though are significantly different to what we just saw with the GTX 1080 so let's explore that a little closer.

    I guess one takeaway here is that it's bad to generalize. For example claiming that Nvidia's DX12 performance handicaps Ryzen is certainly not true in all titles, though we might start to see more of this as newer games take better advantage of modern PC hardware.
    For now though, Ryzen isn't always superior in DX12 titles and we can look to Hitman as an example. The 7700K is miles better in this game. Vega 64 doesn't always perform better with Ryzen either, as seen in titles like Dawn of War III, F1 2016 and Rise of the Tomb Raider where we witnessed the R5 1600 doing much better with the Nvidia GeForce GPU.
    We also saw how much more the higher 1440p resolution brings both Ryzen and Vega into play. Ryzen still did well at 1080p for the most part, though Vega certainly appears much more competitive at 1440p versus 1080p.
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    Overall, the higher-end Vega 64 parts don't offer a great value while the complete opposite is true for Ryzen. If I didn't have money to burn, which I don't, and I was building a gaming system today intending it to last for the next three, four or possibly even five years, then I'd invest in the Ryzen 5 1600 rather than the more expensive Core i7-7700K, especially if $500+ GPUs aren't in your future.


    Bottom line, it's safe to say that it doesn't matter what GPU reviewers use to compare AMD and Intel CPUs and it doesn't matter what CPU reviewers use to compare AMD and Nvidia GPUs either. It's all fair game.

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    RYZEN 12 nm chega em Fevereiro de 2018

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    AMD Ryzen 2700X & 2600 Review Leaked - tech
    (hx) 04:31 AM EDT - Mar,17 2018 - Post a comment
    WCCFTech is reporting that a review of the upcoming 2nd generation Ryzen CPUs has been leaked. The review shows faster inter-core communication, lower cache latency, as well as higher bandwidth. There are a ton of charts from the leaked review to browse through, but the gist of it is, the new 2700X is between 12-18% faster than the 17000X. AMDs Ryzen platform just keeps getting better and better, if the leaked review is true that is. The launch date for the new chips is April 19th, and I'm definitely looking forward to see how they perform.

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    Olha o 7 nm e 5 nm chegando...

    A TSMC está recebendo o Zen 2, enquanto Goflo está adquirindo o Vega 7nm.

    TSMC last week announced that it had started high volume production (HVM) of chips using their first-gen 7 nm (CLN7FF) process technology. The contract maker of semiconductors says it has over a dozen of customers with tens of designs eager to use the technology to make their integrated circuits.

    The 7 nm node is a big deal for the foundry industry in general and TSMC in particular. When compared to the CLN16FF+ technology (TSMC’s most widely used FinFET process technology) the CLN7FF will enable chip designers to shrink their die sizes by 70% (at the same transistor count), drop power consumption by 60%, or increase frequency by 30% (at the same complexity).

    TSMC is on track to start HVM using its 7 nm EUV process technology in mid-2019. Going forward, the company will increase usage of ASML’s Twinscan NXE step and scan systems when it starts to process wafers using its CLN5 (5 nm) process technology in 2020.


    TSMC Kicks Off Volume Production of 7nm Chips

    https://www.semiwiki.com/forum/conte...ding-edge.html

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/12677...n-of-7nm-chips

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...chips/dxx9ghk/

    TSMC will ramp-up their 7nm production sometimes later this year and GlobalFoundries will follow sometimes in late 2019. Unlike foundry 10nm nodes, their 7nm nodes are in fact more or less comparable to Intel’s 10nm in terms of density.

    2019 will be the first time in a fairly long time that all four leading-edge foundries (Intel, Samsung, TSMC, and GlobalFoundries) will be on an even playing field. Ultimately it’s not our analysis, but the final products, that will demonstratively prove what those process technologies have to offer and who is leading the semiconductor industry.


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